Hey @AtomicLimits, is this something that you will do to this, add older reviews, too? There are some truly historical reviews that should definitely be on your list. #Suntola's, of course, and e.g. Goodman & Pessa 1986 (?) defined the end of the #VPHA
Sorting by publication date does not seem to work well. And, if 2002 are your first reviews, you are missing *a lot*. See the #JAP2005 review for review of reviews up to then, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. You are missing those by #Suntola himself, Goodman &
Link to the #JAP2005 #ALDep review: https://t.co/3C9i0cgYHy
Checked my citation statistics from WoS, and noticed: I have just made it to the "2000 club"! Thanks to the #JAP2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 . The surface chemistry section was, by the way, slightly updated to the Kirk-Othmer #ALDep chapter, http
RT @rlpuu: @rodriguesjm6 @OpenAcademics Here’s a whole detailed thread… and I have not even fully finished it (events in life came between)…
@rodriguesjm6 @OpenAcademics Here’s a whole detailed thread… and I have not even fully finished it (events in life came between). This review is I think still the world’s 2nd most cited review on #ALDep. The story started with rejection.
The K-O Section 3 Fundamentals is, by the way, basically a rewriting an update to the #JAP2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. I know many have used that for teaching #ALDep. Here is one new image, available in Wikimedia Commons: https://t.co/aUlYdaNe
Feeling proud & awkward at the same time. I developed this ”periodic table of #ALDep processes” for the #JAP2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. #ALDALE2022 @AtomicLimits https://t.co/gLot0AyRsb
@ErwinKessels @hacp81 Great to see the #JAP2005 #TMAwater review here, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7! 2nd most cited of all times still, I think? [I've heard people wondering, why it is not cited (still) more!] -- The Kirk-Othmer chapter kind-of updated it: htt
#ALDepChat (end of this one?)
@manofmatter @sean_t_barry @IUPAC And here to the Gold Book, Compendium of Chemical Terminology. https://t.co/oPg6tPMVt2 I often use this as a reference, when I need to check something. I did so already when writing the #JAP2005 #ALDep review https://t
@manofmatter @sean_t_barry @HarmKnoops Of course, the other historical route to #ALDep was already discussed in the #JAP2005 review I mentioned earlier. The "self-correcting mechanism of science" can be sometimes slow. Journal of Applied Physics 97, 12130
What I could not predict -- although I realized the need to update the info on #ALDep processes tabulated in the "mammoth table" (done once in https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o) -- was that this review would later form the basis of a database of ALD processes: https
@manofmatter @sean_t_barry @Juuhonber Maybe this is a good time to share again a link to an #ALDep review article that I wrote a long time ago. Journal of Applied Physics 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 History discussion has started -- now th
Run into views from #JAP2005, sixteen years ago. Journal of Applied Physics 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 Looks like my old wish for initiating discussion is finally getting realized...? Thank you for sharing your views, @Juuhonber @manofmat
Text got me started exploring the history of #ALDep as a postdoc at @imec_int, Belgium, in 2003. There were consequences with impact. First, #JAP2005, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. Later, in 2013, the #VPHA #ALDhistory project, https://t.co/XSFVJR4PDA - "stil
Foreword @sean_t_barry : ”I wanted to write a book that would have appealed to me as a new postdoc.” Motivation that I recognize! Also: The #JAP2005 review, long ago, I made the kind I wished there would have been available, when I started as a doctoral
In addition to generally #VPHA, I told my personal story, related to the dual discovery of #ALDep. A link is made to my #JAP2005 review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. (And @GeorgeGroupCU review from 2010, https://t.co/KZ1bygH20R. And the 2002 book chapter from @
What a wonderful thread to have an experience of going through review process. How for an impactful #research article to be published, there is a huge toll which researcher has to bear. #nofreelunch #consistency #science #ALDep #chemistry #physics
This one a bit updated, too - just for the caption, though. Comments still welcome! #ALDepChat https://t.co/44b3HJkkre
New version of the figure illustrating the three mechanisms. Thanks for the discussion so far! More viewpoints still welcome. #ALDepChat The changes made to the picture are purely visual: shorter arrows, indenting of the 1&2 labels. Also, the captio
@EPidko @BentGroup @_NatRichey @_Chemila Hi Nathan, Camilla: If you catch up with the discussion, the questions are: (1) whether panel a represents "ligand exchange reaction" well, as we know it in the field of ALD, and (2) whether "ligand exchange reactio
This image, too, for public criticism: attempt to illustrate the factors that cause saturation in chemisorption. #ALDepChat Update from Fig 12 of https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, with one row added (c), which shows the combined case of running out of reactive sit
Another image for public criticism in the #ALDep community. Purpose is to illustrate the three common reaction mechanisms in ALD: ligand exchange reaction, associative adsorption, dissociative adsorption. Comments? #ALDepChat Earlier version: Fig 11 of
RT @rlpuu: 4th addition - the Ylilammi paper, here for #TMAwater. https://t.co/5QmsnmzD8d
4th addition - the Ylilammi paper, here for #TMAwater. https://t.co/5QmsnmzD8d
3rd addition from me to the #ALDdatabase. I noticed that the #JAP2005 #TMAwater review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. While a review, this paper contains some interpretations on TMAwater not published elsewhere. Also, it’s been cited as an original ref by e.g.
My 1st contribution was just included in the #ALDdatabase coordinated by @AtomicLimits, updated by volunteers. Updates e.g. the "mammoth" #ALDep overview tables from https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o and https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 (#JAP2005 review). Date, for the recor
@JRvanOmmen @hacp81 @v_cremers @JolienDendooven About definitions: first, ALD. Here is how I proposed to define ALD long ago, for the #JAP2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. I aimed at a brief definition that contains the characteristics of ALD, as I kne
Came to this conclusion already long ago: the #JAP2005 review starts "Atomic layer deposition (ALD) is a chemical vapor deposition (CVD) technique suitable for manufacturing inorganic material layers, with thickness down to a fraction of a monolayer. ..."
@Simon_D_Elliott @sean_t_barry (continuing, on monolayer of panel b) In the image below, Models I and III have the (physisorbed-type) close packed monolayer of (b) as reference point - figure from the #JAP2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. https://t.co/
Fun to notice how Mendeley gives geographic statistics for readers. This one is for the #JAP2005 review (surface chemistry concepts, #ALDhistory, 2-reactant process overview, #TMAwater review), https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, https://t.co/twnBXmBROI. https://t.co
Noticed: my list of reviews in the @AaltoUniversity site has been updated. Now #JAP2005 https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 is included - thanks! Here, screen capture with the four oldest reviews. I like the visual impact indicators (Altmetric etc)! https://t.co/jo2YT
(Slides of joint talk with @JRvanOmmen at #ALDALE2020 shared in slideshare, also related to the #JAP2005 review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, continuing the critical discussion on #ALDfun'damentals: https://t.co/wTAPTipsAD) https://t.co/oLENsekGZZ
@GeorgeGroupCU
FYI, @AtomicLimits - here, the birth of the #ALDep table you continue updating, has been described in the most detail accessible. It was born for the revised version of #JAP2005, to condense the info of the "mammoth table" in a viewable form. I pondered ho
Editor, 4.3.2005 on #JAP2005: "This is an informative review which I believe will simulate considerable interest in our community." Well seen! For many years, it was the worlds *most cited* review on ALD. Now still, it is the 2nd most cited (but how long?)
Cover letter, #JAP2005 revision, 14.2.2005: "Discussion has been added in Section II.C.1 of the general trends of materials grown by ALD, accompanied with a new overview figure (fig. 3)." It is here that the periodic table of #ALDep was born. https://t.co/
(Notice for example that what is currently the most cited review on #ALDep https://t.co/KZ1bygH20R, published five years after my review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 that exposed the two early branches of #ALDhistory, does not mention a word of molecular layeri
Being ahead of one's time, is heavy. I felt that I used to "talk to vacuum". The discussion I wanted to raise on early #ALDhistory with Table 1 of #JAP2005 https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, which made clear the extent of the until-then overlooked molecular layering
I worked hard (I remember three weeks, ~full time?) to create the two-reactant ALD process overview ("mammoth table") for https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. I sure did not want to cut it away. (Had I cut it, there'd be e.g. no @AtomicLimits database https://t.co/0um
As said, the path to publication of #JAP2005 was not easy. The path included a blunt rejection from a referee, who did not see really any value in the review, as written. The contrast with the value seen later by the field, through citations, is striking.
Here, one sees that the review which later became #JAP2005 (https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7), started shaping up in my mind. At this time, it was still planned to go together with the TiO2-related review (https://t.co/zXNfhAIxqY) and be published before it, in the
RT @mattipihlaj: A fascinating story about the journey of a review journal article. Be sure to follow the thread. #openscience @AcademicCha…
A fascinating story about the journey of a review journal article. Be sure to follow the thread. #openscience @AcademicChatter #AcademicTwitter
It was the submitting to APR and the possibility to use LaTeX for manuscript preparation that enabled the review of two-reactant #ALDep processes for the JAP 2005 review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, updated for the JAP 2013 review https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o &
First, on the impact. Here is a screen capture of the numerical metrics of the article of today, from AIP’s website https://t.co/qQBw0z8i4y. Cited > 1600 times, according to WoS. My most cited paper and the 2nd most cited review on #ALDep (1st: George,
I notice it is 15 years ago that my review on #ALDep surface chemistry was published, J. Appl. Phy. 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 . That was my first review in APR. Review has been impactful, but its path to publication was not easy. A thread.
RT @rlpuu: Related to the presentation by @JRvanOmmen & me at #ALDALE2020: some earlier scientific articles with critical-progressive discu…
RT @rlpuu: Related to the presentation by @JRvanOmmen & me at #ALDALE2020: some earlier scientific articles with critical-progressive discu…
RT @rlpuu: Related to the presentation by @JRvanOmmen & me at #ALDALE2020: some earlier scientific articles with critical-progressive discu…
Related to the presentation by @JRvanOmmen & me at #ALDALE2020: some earlier scientific articles with critical-progressive discussion on #ALDep fundamentals (#ALDfun): JAP 2005 (https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7), JCP 2020 (https://t.co/41VpffDvcC) & JVSTA 2
@AStrasser116 @JRvanOmmen @hacp81 Thanks for the thanks: glad if the materials are helpful! Tell of them to your PhD candidate colleagues, too 😀. And remember, they are evolving materials, not a complete finalized package. - This review I wrote long ago al
Just realized a new dimension of #Mendeley: it shows statistics of the readers, divided in many ways, also country-wise. Here, example for my 2005 #ALDep review, which still seems widely used. https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 https://t.co/aA0AgJxm0J
(Of course, in my view, the view on #ALDep’s history should have changed already in 2005 with the review Journal of Applied Physics 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, not in 2013 with the advent of Virtual Project on the History of ALD #VPHA.)
@sean_t_barry ... and here's the #ALDep cartoon from Puurunen, Journal of Applied Physics 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 [hmm, ligands just slightly larger than metals, could be still larger - I like the Zaera version better, it shows steric hi
Related to critique on #ALDep cartoons (linked tweet): I have found a cartoon (thanks to @sean_t_barry) which does not follow the habit, but plots ligands as larger! Lovely! It is Zaera, https://t.co/n7mEk7r3e1. (I, of course, I did so, too, in 2005 too: h
@Complex_Henrik Indeed! We discussed this thoroughly 😀 with Sean yesterday, too. It has to be a straight line at theta=1 (rising there, actually, at equilibrium p=0). Earlier tweet: https://t.co/JPKT4mGHFZ
@sean_t_barry @DZone_7 Fun part at #AVS66 was when I discussed this problem with a colleague from the ALD field, and we looked back in my 2005 #ALDep review, and ... found it plotted there...! I had totally forgotten I had made the same mind exercise 15 ye
@DavidBergsman Also, FYI, related to terminology discussion: Journal of Applied Physics 97, 121301 (2005); https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. There, Discussion —> Problematic terminology —> Growth rate (amount/cycle). (Screen capture from the OA version stored
@SalamiHosse High appreciation to Patrick Hoffman & cow.! - I, actually, have tried, too. Here is another slide, potentially to be shown in my talk on Tue, building on an image from my 2005 review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. The 4:1 ligand-to-metal size r
@SemanticScholar @AIP_Publishing Hi @SemanticScholar, I am truly buzy and will not go searching for a place to report. If you can here share a direct link to the place, I can (try to) use it. Or, Here’s the paper info, you can go & remove it: Journal o
Congratulations, @ErwinKessels! - Love to see, too, how the #ALDdatabase originally created for the JAP (@AppliedPhysRev) https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 lives on!
@Chr_Militzer @CvdGraz @rlpuu In a sense this discussion has been taking place on twitter, but good to have it recurring I would say: https://t.co/6AEwcQP3Kt #ALDepWindow
Comparing the mentioned Barry et al. 2018 and Puurunen 2015 , https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, I noticed that one term is used to denote different phenomena. In your ”dissociation”, a ligand leaves. In my ”dissociation”, a ligand is bonded to the surface. Differen
Table I in my #ALDep review from 2005 in JAP / Appl. Phys. Rev. @AIP_Publishing https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 already could have been helpful to find examples on thin film growth. https://t.co/crykOHAmSO #VPHA https://t.co/jASXxKSEDX
RT @rlpuu: One thing that puzzled me when the 2013 @JVSTAB review on "#ALDhistory and its relationship on @AVS_Members" https://t.co/crykOH…
@jv3sund @KingMaterials @JVSTAB @AVS_Members @parsonsthinfilm Thanks Jonas, that was an interesting video! As a highly cited reference, maybe this is good: Journal of Applied Physics 113, 021301 (2013); https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o. Published about at the same
RT @rlpuu: One thing that puzzled me when the 2013 @JVSTAB review on "#ALDhistory and its relationship on @AVS_Members" https://t.co/crykOH…
RT @rlpuu: One thing that puzzled me when the 2013 @JVSTAB review on "#ALDhistory and its relationship on @AVS_Members" https://t.co/crykOH…
Also: the 2013 JVSTA review https://t.co/crykOHAmSO did cite the 2013 JAP review https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o, which in one sense was a follow-up of the 2005 JAP review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, so they were aware (screen capt. from the 2013 JVSTA review's web v
Why is it not possible, to my understanding, that authors of https://t.co/crykOHAmSO were not aware of the JAP 2005 review? E.g.: the review was then (to my understanding) world's most cited #ALDep review (now: 2nd). Screen capture today of metrics from: h
Further to my understanding, it is not possible that the authors of https://t.co/crykOHAmSO would not have been aware of the JAP 2005 review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 and the fact that this review was the first to expose the #MolecularLayering origin to the
One thing that puzzled me when the 2013 @JVSTAB review on "#ALDhistory and its relationship on @AVS_Members" https://t.co/crykOHAmSO was published was: Why did it not cite my 2005 JAP #ALDep review https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 that had exposed the other histori
@webuhro @cathleencrudden https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7, review, my most cited paper (>1300 now). Originally rather bluntly rejected, resubmitted - to a better journal. Was perhaps too revolutionary: exposed overlooked history of #ALDep, critically discussed
RT @aldhistoryblog: New post: "On how I came up with the "periodic table of ALD processes" by @rlpuu. #IYPT2019, The first periodic table s…
@DavidBergsman @AtomicLimits @ErwinKessels @TUeindhoven @HarmKnoops FYI: I wrote up how it all started. The @AtomicLimits version is a great step ahead. https://t.co/i7zz62Sjuv
@Joel_Schn @BentGroup Thanks 😀. I wrote up how it all started. The @AtomicLimits version is a great step ahead. https://t.co/i7zz62Sjuv
@Viriliz_12 Nice that you like it 😀. I wrote up how it all started. The @AtomicLimits version is a great step ahead - this story started from a review published in 2005. https://t.co/i7zz62Sjuv
@jv3sund Here is another one, by O'Neill et al. #ALDepCatalysis review in @ACSCatalysis 2015, https://t.co/Mb2VPAu2re. They refer back to JAP 2013 https://t.co/yLiuRpsn8o - and that, as we know, goes back to JAP 2005 https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7. #ALDepPeriodic
@jv3sund Another credit to give: @JRvanOmmen made a colourful version of my JAP 2005 periodic table https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7 already a long time ago - would you like to share it here, Ruud, as "reference"? I think it was made after the update in JAP 2013 ht
@jv3sund Thank you Jonas for sharing this. Of course, there must have been periodic tables of #ALDep earlier - full credit for this one to prof emeritus Lauri Niinistö #AaltoCHEM. Also it is clear that @AtomicLimits continues directly from my version in JA
RT @aldhistoryblog: New post: "On how I came up with the "periodic table of ALD processes" by @rlpuu. #IYPT2019, The first periodic table s…
@JRvanOmmen @ErwinKessels Thanks, Ruud! I wrote some more details on how the periodic table of #ALDep was born, in the @aldhistoryblog. https://t.co/i7zz62Sjuv
RT @aldhistoryblog: New post: "On how I came up with the "periodic table of ALD processes" by @rlpuu. #IYPT2019, The first periodic table s…
New post: "On how I came up with the "periodic table of ALD processes" by @rlpuu. #IYPT2019, The first periodic table summary published in https://t.co/Ka0YXkvKh5. #ALDep #ALDepPeriodicTable @AtomicLimits @ErwinKessels @HarmKnoops #ALDepChat #ALDCoE https:
#IYPT2019 #ALDepPeriodicTable #ALDep #ALDepChat - thanks, @JRvanOmmen! FYI: For my works mentioned, @imec_int, @VTTFinland, and @helsinkiuni @HelsinkiALD have been involved as affiliations, plus funding from @BusinessFinland (then Tekes) and @SuomenAkatemi
RT @JRvanOmmen: Great to see how the periodic table of #ALDep developed over the years! It started with the bright idea of @RLPuu to summar…
Great to see how the periodic table of #ALDep developed over the years! It started with the bright idea of @RLPuu to summarize all known ALD schemes in this compact way in JAP 2005 https://t.co/3VNxVfMDMs https://t.co/PBwpwJmEzr
RT @rlpuu: @sean_t_barry I agree with @sean_t_barry here. Continuing: here is how I presented the ”four characteristic ways the GPC (growth…
@sean_t_barry I agree with @sean_t_barry here. Continuing: here is how I presented the ”four characteristic ways the GPC (growth per cycle) may depend on temperature in the ALD window”, with cited examples, in the JAP 2005 review, https://t.co/yhK4qC8ce7.